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i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky. it was pretty substantive. >> the b.s. wonk. >> what's that? >> b.s. wonk. >> mitt romney was floating policies out there -- >> united states has the best health outcomes in the world? >> it was not -- that's it, it was not a lot of one-liners and zingers. >> a couple of good one-liners. people forgot. i've been in business for 25 years, i have no idea what you're talking about, that's pretty good. >> i need to consult with my accountant is
i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come...
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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that momentum in the final days? >> well, first of all, i'm not the least bit surprised mitt romney did as well as he did. he did well in the 20 debates rick santorum went up against him. i would also argue one of the big advantages romney had going into the debate was he did have to debate rick santorum, he did have to debate newt gingrich. it is like having a preseason. and the president didn't have that. i think the other key thing that came out of this is the presidential race for all practical purposes actually started last night. a lot of people just didn't know mitt romney
this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that...
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the mitt romney wasn display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to win and what you say almost matters as much as how you say it, and the scary thing about politics is, substance aside, you know, a lot of the journalist whose know the substance on these issues are debating with themselves who was more accurate and who was not. when you listen to the person in the street, the voter, the juror who i speak to, they say i understood romney, i didn't understand obama. i liked romney's style
the mitt romney wasn display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is...
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mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> the problem in both of these claims is a lack of specifics. what the president is assuming, the reason we said false on his claim, he basically is assuming if he just did a tax cut and nothing else, then it would include this giant amount of tax breaks for people out there. but that's what mr. romney is saying he won't do. he's saying he has all these specifics in terms of cutting deductions, finding ways of closing loopholes so that people would pay more and there wouldn't be this giant tax cut but he wouldn't say what that would be. this lack of
mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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was last night a good night for mitt romney? yes, it was. bad night for obama? sure. did the president blow a chance to deliver a knockout punch? you better believe it. but really, everything is going to be okay. sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of the night was actually to be mhh and live to fight another day. it's not the greatest strategy i have ever heard but it's not a campaign-ending strategy. we've still got three more debates to go. the next one is next week and it's between joe biden and paul ryan. joe's not going to be afraid to throw some punks around and combat the deceptions about taxes, medicare, social security, and the rest. and the president himself has two more chances to meet romney on the debate field of battle. you can bet that the passive note scribbling guy that showed up last night is not going to
was last night a good night for mitt romney? yes, it was. bad night for obama? sure. did the president blow a chance to deliver a knockout punch? you better believe it. but really, everything is going to be okay. sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of...
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mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point out, and looking down, i think as the onion gets peeled on thrk we will find that something happened in his presidential or personal life that distracted him. >> he will take a hard look at it. we are going to have to make some judgments as to where to draw the line and use our time. you evaluate after every contest and make a judgment. i am sure that we will make adjustments. >> obama arrived i
mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the kids' college tuition. [ cellphone ringing ] but life insurance? [ horn honking ] life is unpredictable. that's why at fidelity life we want you to think about term life insurance -- taking care of your family's future expenses if something happens to you. it's easy. we get to know you and your needs, then give you our best quote and our competitors'. you choose and save up to 70%. that could mean $250,000 of coverage for just $15 a month. we offer plans with no medical exam, and we've been in business for over 100 years. call fidelity life. ♪ or visit fideli
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycl
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr....
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and then get a load of mitt romney the liberal last night. >> it's not working. and the proof of that is 23 million people out of work. the proof that have is one out of six people in poverty. the proof of that is we've gone from 32 million on food tampers stamps to 42 million on food stamps. >> i love great schools. massachusetts our schools are ranked number one of all 50 states. and the key to all schools great teachers. i reject the idea that i don't want great teachers. >> you would repeal dodd frank. >> i would repeal and replace it. you're not going to get rid of all regulation. >> and they're guaranteed by the federal government. this is the biggest kiss given to new york banks i've ever seen. >> cenk: mitt romney attacking new york banks? what a joke! so president obama is going to hit this one out of the park. here is his response. >> um, um, um, ah. >> cenk: aaah! so where does he find himself? you guessed it, there he is again for the third time. oh god this sucks. all right. so what should he have said? are you kidding me? do you know that the top ei
and then get a load of mitt romney the liberal last night. >> it's not working. and the proof of that is 23 million people out of work. the proof that have is one out of six people in poverty. the proof of that is we've gone from 32 million on food tampers stamps to 42 million on food stamps. >> i love great schools. massachusetts our schools are ranked number one of all 50 states. and the key to all schools great teachers. i reject the idea that i don't want great teachers....
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. >> a couple of nights ago. we had a debate. you may have gotten a chance to see that. >> reporter: before the new jobs numbers, romney had been widing a wave of momentum. he even got a pass from the president, who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes. >> 47% of the people will vote for the president no matter what. >> with an ad still repeating those rorks, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds and thousands of speeches, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that is completely wrong. >> reporter: romney next heads to florida. that state's unemployment rate has gone down in recent month, is still well above the national average. wolf? >>> let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger and ron bronstein. gloria, the new numbers, how will they impact the president? >> they're a great talking point for the president. very important to be bel
. >> a couple of nights ago. we had a debate. you may have gotten a chance to see that. >> reporter: before the new jobs numbers, romney had been widing a wave of momentum. he even got a pass from the president, who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes. >> 47% of the people will vote for the president no matter what. >> with an ad still repeating those rorks, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on...
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night on style. >> it looked lielg romney wanted to be there and obama didn't want to be there. >> the challenger, mitt romney seemed more presidential than the president, more in command of miss facts, gums, principles. >> that was the frustration wrchl was the president tonight. >> the other media exaggerating the extent of the president's loss and ignoring the candidate's half truths in the process. fox news hypes the conservative website video of barack obama as a rashlgly charged revelation. >> on the eve of the first prez denl chal debate the first bomb is about to d dropped for the 2012 presidential white house. >> it was covered at the time. a right wing commentators trying to portray their president as an angry black man. plus the other big debate, jon stewart versus bill o'reilly. >> income redistribution. do you believe in it? >> do you? >> no. i asked first. >> it's a complicated one. i believe in social security. do you? >> yes, absolutely. >> so we're both socialists. >> no, no. >> was this clash of titan television or was it shtick? i'm howard kurtz and this is "reliable
night on style. >> it looked lielg romney wanted to be there and obama didn't want to be there. >> the challenger, mitt romney seemed more presidential than the president, more in command of miss facts, gums, principles. >> that was the frustration wrchl was the president tonight. >> the other media exaggerating the extent of the president's loss and ignoring the candidate's half truths in the process. fox news hypes the conservative website video of barack obama as a...
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>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his sta
>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one...
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chris: was that the wednesday night massacre or what? did mitt romney catch up and pass obama in one 90-minute performance? will the strong new jobseport help the president to take command? leading from behind? was there some hidden unknown logic to the president's decision to let his challenger wing his way from one position to another? why didn't barack obama force romney to own his record against the auto rescue and against the 47% and against showing his personal taxes. was there a reason obama didn't want 70 million people to know his best case? finally, rematch. will the town hall format of the next debate give barack obama a chance to show greater empathy. and will mitt romney be just as good when people ask the questions? hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, abc's sam donaldson, nbc's andrea mitchell, msnbc s.e. cupp and joe klein. the new jobs report gives the obama campaign a much-needed assist after the debacle wednesday night in denver. the debate's closing statements told the tale. the president was do
chris: was that the wednesday night massacre or what? did mitt romney catch up and pass obama in one 90-minute performance? will the strong new jobseport help the president to take command? leading from behind? was there some hidden unknown logic to the president's decision to let his challenger wing his way from one position to another? why didn't barack obama force romney to own his record against the auto rescue and against the 47% and against showing his personal taxes. was there a reason...
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same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying, i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it takes. tell us now what tax breaks you're going to get rid of. >> tell us what tax breaks you're going to get rid of and also please, governor romney, you were very upset about the 47% of americans who pay no taxes. well, they include seniors, the military, and they include the working poor. please tell me, governor romney, exactly
same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't...
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i think what this video goes to -- mitt romney will bring this up tomorrow night. he will talk about the statements that the president made about his own tax plans and the things that the president's on the record, whether or not he has been truthful. he will bring up a video like this and he will ask the question about whether or not the president, who presents himself as the guy who represents everyone is really the guy who ran in 2008 and who he is now. >> i am interested it see that. i would be curious to know if mitt romney will bring it up. he will be asked about it. if not in the debate, another appearance. does he want to go where john plk cane, famously didn't go. >> sure! >> he has to make a calculation of whether or not it helps the campaign. if you are the romney folk, i am not sure you plan it out this way. obviously, potentially, it is potentially more damaging to mitt romney. but does he want to own this and make the same argument? john mccain had that opportunity and decided not to do it. >> i think you do it subtly and go to the credibility thing -
i think what this video goes to -- mitt romney will bring this up tomorrow night. he will talk about the statements that the president made about his own tax plans and the things that the president's on the record, whether or not he has been truthful. he will bring up a video like this and he will ask the question about whether or not the president, who presents himself as the guy who represents everyone is really the guy who ran in 2008 and who he is now. >> i am interested it see that....
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>> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and just the context of how good mitt romney was tonight. >> i thought that in terms of individual exchanges i think what may have been most notable, there wasn't i think a single direct attack against mitt romney from president obama. however, they substantively dealt with policy matters. >> he was looking down tonight. he was passive. he was abstract in his answers. mitt romney was talking about real people, giving real examples. i thought he was clear. he was concise. i think the president was muddled tonight. i just wonder, we talked about this ear
>> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and...
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that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campaign trail for the last -- >> i can't even take any of this seriously. >> -- several months. >> i think, first off, the whole idea this guy is an empty suit, it's laughable to say that. he was the governor of a state, and he was very successful as a governor of a state. he was able to cobble together the coalition, something this president hasn't been able to do, quite frankly, to get his agenda done. >> why does he keep saying his -- excuse me. this one gets to me, and i don't like the word lie, but i think he's dealing in an untruth here. he did it the other night after being corrected by his staff when he did it on one of the sunday shows. he said his health care plan, such as it's going to be, will cover people who don't have coverage for a pre-existing condition and they t
that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campaign trail for the last -- >> i can't even take any of this seriously. >> -- several months. >> i think, first off, the whole idea this guy is an empty suit, it's laughable to say that. he...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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governor romney needed to energize his base. he did that last night. will this have an impact on swing voters? one thing democrats are saying today in the focus groups and dial groups and polling last night looking at swing voters they say there was not a noticeable shift. maybe a few said governor romney was impressive, but they didn't see a big flood toward governor romney. wolf, make no question about this the president went into this debate with a little wind on his back, governor romney comes out having taken that wind away. >> quickly, john, a lot of democrats said to me today they're really worried that the president's lackluster performance last night may have hurt down ticket candidate, senate democrats for example who may be having serious problems. this could energize the republicans in a state like massachusetts, for example, scott brown in his race against elizabeth warren, they're worried that the president's performance last night could hurt some of those vulnerable senate democrats. >> and that is of course the very same dynamic we were
governor romney needed to energize his base. he did that last night. will this have an impact on swing voters? one thing democrats are saying today in the focus groups and dial groups and polling last night looking at swing voters they say there was not a noticeable shift. maybe a few said governor romney was impressive, but they didn't see a big flood toward governor romney. wolf, make no question about this the president went into this debate with a little wind on his back, governor romney...
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. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking -- he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> are you saying that governor romney lied or was dishonest? >> well, yeah, i think he was dishonest absolutely. >> many people say what they saw was the governor romney they've known all along, what's been the problem in the past is they haven't seen that person, and he finally emerged during the debates. >> you said he was lying when he said he was going to cut taxes for wealthy people? >> he's the etch-a-sketch guy. we have to wonder which mitt is going to show up. if you just lay out lie after lie after lie about your own plan, as well as what the president has been talking about, of course you can look good. >> we expect an aggressive debater to show up last night on the debate stage with barack obama. we didn't expect an aggressively dishonest debater to show up. >> sean: perfect strategy, liar, liar, liar, pants on fire, fire, fire. funny, i didn't hear anybody mention anything about the president's record
. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking -- he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> are you saying that governor romney lied or was dishonest? >> well, yeah, i think he was dishonest absolutely. >> many people say what they saw was the governor romney they've known all along, what's been the problem in the past is they haven't seen that person, and he finally emerged during the debates. >>...
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how much difference did governor romney make wednesday night? >> well, look, george, i think governor romney had a masterful theatrical performance just this past week, but the underpinnings and foundation of that performance were fundamentally dishonest. look, he walked away from the central tenet of his economic theory by saying he had no idea what the president was talking about. ten minutes after the debate even his own staff is walking back his answers on health care and pre-existing conditions, so, look, i don't want to take anything away from what i think again was a masterful, masterful performance by governor romney but i don't think governor romney's positions have changed and fundamentally i don't think the campaign changed. >> what happened to the president wednesday night? you've seen all the reviews, and i'm sure the president has seen the reviews, as well. let's look at that "new yorker" cover there, it shows the empty podium next to mitt romney. the basic line is the president didn't show up on wednesday night. i just want to kno
how much difference did governor romney make wednesday night? >> well, look, george, i think governor romney had a masterful theatrical performance just this past week, but the underpinnings and foundation of that performance were fundamentally dishonest. look, he walked away from the central tenet of his economic theory by saying he had no idea what the president was talking about. ten minutes after the debate even his own staff is walking back his answers on health care and pre-existing...
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that would be a bad night for mr. romney. thank you, howard fineman, and steve schmidt. >>> coming up, how will we know who wins tonight's debate? it's not like there is an official scorecard but experts will look at everything. we'll give you an idea of how to look at this thing realtime. >>> and also caught on tape, yesterday "the huffington post" reported paul ryan saying 30% of americans wanted a welfare state and jumped on joe biden as well saying that the middle class has been buried. the running mates are causing some headaches. >>> plus, i have some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and joan walsh to fill in for barack obama. can they answer questions? i'm going to show you what i'm going to be looking for. and then i'll join rachel mad do you for an hour long show for tonight's debate. join us for the full coverage. and then at midnight eastern, i'll be back for the a special late edition of "hardball," a show with lots of results. we'll tell you who won. this is "hardball," live
that would be a bad night for mr. romney. thank you, howard fineman, and steve schmidt. >>> coming up, how will we know who wins tonight's debate? it's not like there is an official scorecard but experts will look at everything. we'll give you an idea of how to look at this thing realtime. >>> and also caught on tape, yesterday "the huffington post" reported paul ryan saying 30% of americans wanted a welfare state and jumped on joe biden as well saying that the...
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how do you fix that in one night? >> that's what mitt romney has to begin trying to do. this is it for mitt. that was the lead of my piece in "the huffington post," words of one sill belabel. this is it for mitt. >> it rhymes. >> he has to change the conversation, and do what you said, which is express clear, big, convincing, humane and understandable thoughts about he, how he can be the better person to take the economy forward and take the country forward. he said he wanted this to be about the economy. the romney -- the obama people have jammed the radar, romney's rar for six months, ago? now romney has 60 million people out there. he has to look at the camera and say, this is in simple, clear terms is how i'm going to help you and how we're going to fix the economy. >> same question to you. the economy looks better than romney does. that's the problem he faces. >> one of his biggest challenges tonight is to stand on that stage and convince people watching, something north of 60 million people will tune in, that he understands the lives and problems of average america
how do you fix that in one night? >> that's what mitt romney has to begin trying to do. this is it for mitt. that was the lead of my piece in "the huffington post," words of one sill belabel. this is it for mitt. >> it rhymes. >> he has to change the conversation, and do what you said, which is express clear, big, convincing, humane and understandable thoughts about he, how he can be the better person to take the economy forward and take the country forward. he said...